he went from being the conservative to we can get long to we can work together, the healthcare time, the time as governor in massachusetts and ryan is still a conservative. won't the democrats try to draw him out saying this is what romney-ryan tech set about? >> absolutely. joe biden foras asplasid as obama was the other night, biden will be as tough. he's going to throw out red meat and go after ryan on his stance on abortion, women's issues. he's going to hit the social issues and it's going to be about foreign policy, which ryan has very, very limited experience. >> and medicare. i imagine he will try to deliver what obama didn't, the message that, in their opinion, the republicans are going to mess with medicare, right? >> by the end of the debate, the the world will assume that paul rysunis spending the $716 million of medicare money. it won't continue to be obama and biden will make sure that happens. >> but he has a propensity for putting his foot in his mouth? >> that is what makes it great television. you don't know what is going to happen or he's going to say. >> great tel